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Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby eurouk3434 on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 17:18

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Will we be seeing both of these "republics" in Eurovision anytime in the next few years?

Please try not to let this thread go into politics, but keep it Eurovision :)
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby Sabrewulf238 on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 17:38

Wow....just when you think you know your countries....even more pop up. :lol:

Are these countries near Azerbaijan/Georgia? :? If so I suppose it's quite possible.

There should be some rule that only countries in Europe can join (or at least countries out as far as Georgia/Israel).....because I bet somewhere down the line countries will want to participate and they won't be anywhere near Europe. :(
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby eurouk3434 on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 17:55

Sabrewulf238 wrote:Are these countries near Azerbaijan/Georgia? :? If so I suppose it's quite possible.


They're supposedly independant republics in Georgia, but only Russia recognised them.
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby TF100 on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 21:10

This is about 36902836098236 times less likely than Kosovo, only Belarus seems remotely likely from ESC countries to recognise it after Russia, this won't happen. Turkey & Azerbaijan recognise Northern Cyprus as a country but noone expects them to be allowed to enter, so don't expect anything different for these two in the near future!
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby eurovisionireland on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 22:18

You never know though,stranger things have happened! Is there any well known singers from the aforementioned regions?
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby marais on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 22:23

TF100 wrote:This is about 36902836098236 times less likely than Kosovo, only Belarus seems remotely likely from ESC countries to recognise it after Russia, this won't happen. Turkey & Azerbaijan recognise Northern Cyprus as a country but noone expects them to be allowed to enter, so don't expect anything different for these two in the near future!


Azerbaijan doesn't recognize Northern Cyprus.
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby TF100 on Thu Sep 04, 2008, 22:41

marais wrote:
TF100 wrote:This is about 36902836098236 times less likely than Kosovo, only Belarus seems remotely likely from ESC countries to recognise it after Russia, this won't happen. Turkey & Azerbaijan recognise Northern Cyprus as a country but noone expects them to be allowed to enter, so don't expect anything different for these two in the near future!


Azerbaijan doesn't recognize Northern Cyprus.


Did they not in the end? The last I heard they were about to, and that was about a year ago...
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby marais on Fri Sep 05, 2008, 23:16

Nope.
They have the same problem with Nagorno-Karabakh.
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby TF100 on Sun Sep 07, 2008, 14:38

If anyone's interested, Nicaragua has now recognised Abkhazia & South Ossetia, Belarus is intending to and Venezuela and Tajikistan have been supportive of it. Only like 190-odd countries left to convince I guess!
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby aletem on Mon Sep 08, 2008, 06:14

TF100 wrote:If anyone's interested, Nicaragua has now recognised Abkhazia & South Ossetia, Belarus is intending to and Venezuela and Tajikistan have been supportive of it. Only like 190-odd countries left to convince I guess!

From likely reasons Venezuela will recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia...maybe even Cuba would do it... Now the countries have been divided into blocks like never before. :roll: :scratch
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby Martyzebra on Mon Sep 08, 2008, 10:49

Who could sing for these two countries?
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby TF100 on Mon Sep 08, 2008, 14:02

Martyzebra wrote:Who could sing for these two countries?


Well Diana Gurtskaya is actually Abkhaz...
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby GordonRamsayIsmyHero on Mon Sep 08, 2008, 17:06

TF100 wrote: Turkey & Azerbaijan recognise Northern Cyprus as a country but noone expects them to be allowed to enter, so don't expect anything different for these two in the near future!



Turkey is the only country that recognizes Northern Cyprus.



Independence (de facto) from Cyprus
- Proclaimed November 15, 1983
- Recognition By Turkey only

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby TF100 on Mon Sep 08, 2008, 17:21

GordonRamsayIsmyHero wrote:
TF100 wrote: Turkey & Azerbaijan recognise Northern Cyprus as a country but noone expects them to be allowed to enter, so don't expect anything different for these two in the near future!



Turkey is the only country that recognizes Northern Cyprus.



Independence (de facto) from Cyprus
- Proclaimed November 15, 1983
- Recognition By Turkey only

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus


Yes but the question has come up in the Azeri parliament a lot of times, and the same link you gave me says that they have a low-level form of recognition which includes international dialogue and transport links, so they're not exactly against it.
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Re: Abkhazia & South Ossetia

Postby GordonRamsayIsmyHero on Mon Sep 08, 2008, 17:37

That's correct, but they haven't recognized it yet. So it would be wrong to say that they have when it is not the case.
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