*** NOTE : this post may not be totally up to date. Please refer to http://nsc.wikia.com/wiki/NSC_rules ***

Countries:

* Anyone wishing to participate must come up with the bare minimum of a country name and flag, although other details about the country, for example the language or the name of the capital city, are encouraged.

* Before every edition a thread by the new host will be made asking people for confirmation of their entry - this is the time you must send your "new country" information to the host, if you're hoping to participate for the first time. However, all countries must confirm their participation each time.

Songs:

* Songs may not have taken part in the Eurovision Song Contest (or the Junior version), nor may they have taken part in a national final for the (j)ESC.

* Songs may be covers.

* Songs can be in any language.

* Countries may use a "national final" or an "internal selection" to choose their entries.

* Songs can have been released at any time.

Hosting:

* The right to host goes automatically to the winner of the previous edition. If for any reason the previous winner cannot, or does not want to, host, then the right falls to the second placed, then the third, the fourth, and so on. The host is expected to take care of the song presentation and the presentation of the results, as well as collecting the songs and votes in the first place.

Voting:

* The nations must PM their points to the organizing country. These points are: 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 point.

* If a country does not submit its votes on time, it will have 75% taken away from its score

* Eliminated semi finalists must vote in the final if they expect to participate next time, and prequalified finalists must vote in the semi final, otherwise they will be removed from the final. Eliminated microstates must now also vote in the semi final & final if they expect to participate next time.

* Revealing your votes before they are officially announced is not allowed.

Microstates:

* NSC currently has no more space to accept countries, therefore microstates have been created. Microstates have to take part in a Microstate Qualifier in order to qualify to the semi final. Once a 'real' country hasn't participated for 3 editions, the next microstate in line will be promoted to a real country.

* Since Microstates don't have a guaranteed spot in the Finals they will be allowed to participate in all Spin-offs and we will maintain the "First Come, First Serve" rule. The question came up if Full countries should have priority to sign up but that rule only applies to the actual NSC. So all Microstates are welcome to sign up for Spin-Offs.

General:

* The general board rules still apply, so racism/intolerance of any kind will not be tolerated. Also, English is the language of NSC, and links to download sites will not be allowed.

About the hosting rule:

What if someone is a noob and doesn't know how to present the results? Could he ask someone to help him?

You could add that you lose 75% of your points if you don't vote!

nut wrote:We should change the name of this thread to NSC Cheat Box

Why?

Guys stop it please......i'll die laughing.....it's so funny

maomania wrote:Since the NSC06 Final is just around the corner I wanted to just confirm and finalize the change/update in rules we all decided on and they will take effect Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on when the Finals will be over.
You are probably aware of them but in case you are new or you missed one of them, here is just a quick recap of the results:



The right to own an artist/performer at NSC

No ownership rule. First come, first serve with no limitations - 31%

This was a close call but 31% decided to get rid of the current ownership rule and to replace it on a "First come, first serve" basis. That means an artist will be back up for grab after each round to every participant.



Only one country/entry per computer/IP address?

Yes, only one entry per IP address please - 84%

The majority of participants voted to only allow one country/entry per IP-Address. So if you share your computer with someone who is also participating you can still both be part of the game by sharing a country. We do allow multiple leaders for the same country.



How many countries should be allowed to participate?

40 - 44 - 59%

More than 50% chose this option. And as per discussion it was decided to set the total amount of allowed number of countries to 42.


The rules have been updated. Thanks to everyone who voted and provided helpful advised and input. I am sure there will be more changes next round but just like at the ESC the rules are everchanging, but the core idea won't change

and since we have many new countries and I hope most of the existing ones will return on NSC7 we gonna have the top 12 from NSC6 Final going to the NSC7 Final directlly right ?

I like the rules (cos I voted for all the options that you just wrote down there )

Finally we agreed about the IP addresses

Boyan wrote:and since we have many new countries and I hope most of the existing ones will return on NSC7 we gonna have the top 12 from NSC6 Final going to the NSC7 Final directlly right ?

correct, I haven't added that to the rules cause I remember we were looking to coming up with a flexible rule, meaning the number of direct qualifiers will depend on the total amount of participants.

Boyan wrote:and since we have many new countries and I hope most of the existing ones will return on NSC7 we gonna have the top 12 from NSC6 Final going to the NSC7 Final directlly right ?

I hope so, because then we will have 24 in the final for NSC7, we need to get the right balance and not have a stupidly big semi with a small final!

maomania wrote:

Boyan wrote:and since we have many new countries and I hope most of the existing ones will return on NSC7 we gonna have the top 12 from NSC6 Final going to the NSC7 Final directlly right ?

correct, I haven't added that to the rules cause I remember we were looking to coming up with a flexible rule, meaning the number of direct qualifiers will depend on the total amount of participants.

I disagree with this.

Think about the total number of countries we have.

Then think about the number of countries there will be in the semifinal if only 12 are directly qualified.

I think we're going to have to a bit more flexible. With 42 countries I would suggest 16 direct qualifiers

It seems a lot but with the number of countries I think we should still aim to keep numbers in the semifinal and final at 26.
Which means we could have 10 countries qualifying from the semifinal.

Does anyone agree with this or is everyone happy with a semifinal of 30 countries?

I agree with Tom21. It needs considering.

wampire we were talking about the NSC6 qualifiers to NSC7

Wampire wrote:

maomania wrote:

Boyan wrote:and since we have many new countries and I hope most of the existing ones will return on NSC7 we gonna have the top 12 from NSC6 Final going to the NSC7 Final directlly right ?

correct, I haven't added that to the rules cause I remember we were looking to coming up with a flexible rule, meaning the number of direct qualifiers will depend on the total amount of participants.

I disagree with this.

Think about the total number of countries we have.

Then think about the number of countries there will be in the semifinal if only 12 are directly qualified.

I think we're going to have to a bit more flexible. With 42 countries I would suggest 16 direct qualifiers

It seems a lot but with the number of countries I think we should still aim to keep numbers in the semifinal and final at 26.
Which means we could have 10 countries qualifying from the semifinal.

Does anyone agree with this or is everyone happy with a semifinal of 30 countries?

I agree with Tom21. It needs considering.

I'd prefer to have a big semi-final next time with a lot of qualifiers than having 16 out of the 22(!) going directly to the final next time - it doesnt take a lot to come 16th out of 22!

@Boyan

Yes, so was I

If you only have 12 direct qualifiers there will be 30 countries in the semifinal.

Let's say, for example that the results of NSC 6 were

NSC 6 results
01. Lolee (1st place)
02. Cicvara (2nd place) (i.e. Spila)
03. Gabriel (3rd place)
04. Lost Isle (etc)
05. Romeria
06. Instir
07. USC
08. Phinechendza
09. Brugia
10. Mountbatten Island
11. Rotterdamus
12. Escotia

Only these twelve countries would directly qualify, leaving another 30 countries in the semifinal. Count them if you want

@Tom21

I would prefer the number of countries in the semifinal and final to remain even

Vote anyone?

I suppose there could be a compromise. 14 direct qualifiers would mean 27 countries in the semi which is the same as ESC

I also agree that the number in the Finals should be higher (not higher than 26 though)

I am definately against a 16 direct qualifiers rule. It really makes it easy for current finalists to just stay in the finals round after round and all the semifinalists would have to struggle to make it into the finals.

So I could see for instance a 13 finalists, 13 semifinalists rule. 26 is an acceptable number IMO. We had that during the ESC in 2003 and in this years Semi Final there were 28.
I feel it would be a better idea to have more finalists as this is about fun and we all want to make it the Finals at one point. If some players are stuck in the Semi's round after round it can get frustrating while a Finalists who ends up in a 15th place could easily stay in the Finals....I don't know about that.

maomania wrote:I also agree that the number in the Finals should be higher (not higher than 26 though)

I am definately against a 16 direct qualifiers rule. It really makes it easy for current finalists to just stay in the finals round after round and all the semifinalists would have to struggle to make it into the finals.

So I could see for instance a 13 finalists, 13 semifinalists rule. 26 is an acceptable number IMO. We had that during the ESC in 2003 and in this years Semi Final there were 28.
I feel it would be a better idea to have more finalists as this is about fun and we all want to make it the Finals at one point. If some players are stuck in the Semi's round after round it can get frustrating while a Finalists who ends up in a 15th place could easily stay in the Finals....I don't know about that.

Yes that's true. I have now seen that problem with my 16 qualifiers thingy, so it's a good job we've ruled that out

For now, with the 41 countries that we've got, your idea is pretty much perfect IMO

Top 13 qualify from this NSC 6, leaving 28 countries in the semi for the top 13 to qualify from, eventually leaving 26 countries in NSC 7 final.

i vote for 24 finalists, just as ESC. 10+14

Wampire wrote:

maomania wrote:I also agree that the number in the Finals should be higher (not higher than 26 though)

I am definately against a 16 direct qualifiers rule. It really makes it easy for current finalists to just stay in the finals round after round and all the semifinalists would have to struggle to make it into the finals.

So I could see for instance a 13 finalists, 13 semifinalists rule. 26 is an acceptable number IMO. We had that during the ESC in 2003 and in this years Semi Final there were 28.
I feel it would be a better idea to have more finalists as this is about fun and we all want to make it the Finals at one point. If some players are stuck in the Semi's round after round it can get frustrating while a Finalists who ends up in a 15th place could easily stay in the Finals....I don't know about that.

Yes that's true. I have now seen that problem with my 16 qualifiers thingy, so it's a good job we've ruled that out

For now, with the 41 countries that we've got, your idea is pretty much perfect IMO

Top 13 qualify from this NSC 6, leaving 28 countries in the semi for the top 13 to qualify from, eventually leaving 26 countries in NSC 7 final.

Well you definately had a valid point with the amount of Semi Finalists. It's tough to come up with a perfect solution on this one. The other option would be 2 Semis but I know that most people did not like that idea.

Does anybody else have ideas?

ixic wrote:i vote for 24 finalists, just as ESC. 10+14

10 Finalists and 14 Semi Finalists?

Im born to be in the semi final

I think 24 finalists is the best

but for this one (NSC6) should be the 12 from the final + 12-14 from the next semi depends on how many countyries will be in that semi

I don't understand though why we should have less people in the Finals than in the Semi? Don't we want to have more people in the Finals? We want to make sure that as many players as possible can participate so I don't think 26 is a bad number.

Boyan wrote:but for this one (NSC6) should be the 12 from the final + 12-14 from the next semi depends on how many countyries will be in that semi

I agree but I would still prefer 25 finalists or so. That's not too much, I mean that's the amount of songs they had many times, especially through the 90's. I don't see why we can't do it.

yes 24-26 will be perfect but more than that in the finals dunno

Yeah, 26 should be the max. I agree.